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Awesome news; re: SOPA

[Carl Wood]

http://www.infowars.com/bill-killed-sopa-death-celebrated-as-congress-recalls-anti-piracy-acts/

 

[Sharktopus]

1. This is definitely good news, but SOPA (or something like it) will be back.

2. Don't read infowars or anything Alex Jones related.  Ever.  He's a fat, lying blowhard.  Fuck him.

[Carl Wood]

Not to suggest that Jones is beyond being accused of lying - but what are your premises?

Anyhow, outside of the name-calling that shows up on inforwars, it's a decent alternative news source.  I'm not promoting it though - it just happens to be where I found the article.  I'll submit a link to Fox news next time if that's more to your preference.

[Sharktopus]

I'm not a huge Fox News fan but at least they're a legitimate news source.  Alex Jones is nothing more than a (sometimes entertaining) fear-mongerer who will say anything to get people to listen to his show or go to his website.  He's an open 9/11 "truther" (read: moron) for starters.

Much like bomb-throwers Glen Beck and Keith Olbermann, he twists stories and information so far out of form that it's unrecognizable.  However unlike these two, he steps over that "well, that's one way of looking at it" line and straight into bullshit fantasy land.  Look at anything he says about 9/11.  It's so absurd there's no way he actually believes it.

[Carl Wood]

You're tossing lots of stones, but show me the goods man.  You said he was a liar so show me some shit he lied about.

[Sharktopus]

You're tossing lots of stones, but show me the goods man.  You said he was a liar so show me some shit he lied about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TACalwg360c
There's an interesting take.  "they were all over me, getting in my face!  I was scared of these savages!"   

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7t0fqD83TI&feature=player_embedded

http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/f29/alex-jones-proof-his-lies-11640.html

That should keep you busy for awhile.

[Carl Wood]

Man, it's not logical to claim that as long as someone is saying he's a liar, than he is a liar.  That's the foundation of all three of the links you've provided.

For example, in the 2nd clip, the 'buzzing' would indicate when he's told a lie - but it offers NO PREMISES for the claim.

I'm not being confrontational, but do you see what I mean?  Like, if I were to say "James Hetfield is not in Metallica" then you could say I was lying based on proof (such as recent shows, interviews, whatever) that show he is in the band.

Show me da' muthafukin' money!  It's the difference between just saying "The United States gov't is responsible for 9/11!", and presenting plausible evidence (such as documents, expert testimony, scientific study etc.) as to why a statement is deductively valid.  This is first-year undergrad shit man.

**edited some errors in grammar and spelling.

[Sharktopus]

they don't need to be necessarily backed up, because they're completely and utterly false.  He makes a silly claim that is patently untrue.  How does one prove a negative besides saying "no it isn't"?

Look, it's clear you're not going to listen to reason here, so whatever.  The guy is a fraud, period.  A lying, manipulating fraud who has made oodles of money peddling bullshit to simpletons.

[Carl Wood]

 

[Hellboy]

Good news indeed...

[Carl Wood]

I thought this was rather amusing/relevant

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/jvsC2k3HAKo&amp;feature=relmfu&fs=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/jvsC2k3HAKo&amp;feature=relmfu&fs=1</a>

[Carl Wood]

This one's for Canadians:

http://rt.com/usa/news/bye-canada-bill-internet-335/