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Essential NWOBHM songs

[COFFINCAR!!]

At exactly what date does everyone consider to be the end of the NWOBHM movement? 

July 25th, 1983.

[Release]

I don't understand why some people get pissed off when you say NWOBHM was a genre.  They come back with ".... but none of the bands sounded the same".  Yea, and neither do Morbid Angel, Obituary, Nocturnus and Cynic and yet all 3 were called death metal and more specifically, Florida death metal.  To me, it was just metal.  Back then we didn't compartmentalize every single band like prop do today.  It was either metal or it wasn't.  Now, I just classify all that stuff as "classic metal". 

[Hellboy]

I'm not sure there was a moment.  And there are people here who can probably offer a much better answer than I can.  But if I had to offer an opinion, I'd say NWOBHM faded as bands in and around the movement changed.  Def Leppard became more pop-oriented, Iron Maiden rose from the underground to become one of metal's biggest players.  Many other bands just disappeared as thrash and other metal trends (hair metal, guitar-driven neo-classical metal, etc.) emerged and left the NWOBHM behind.

It had its day.  And it was important.

Indeed, also a "New Wave" of just about anything can only last for so long before it becomes old and stale... 
NWOBHM is best remembered as nostalgia, there were son many magical moments to come out of it.
The era probably ended with Venom's Possessed, not on a high note to say the least... 

[Metal_King]

July 25th, 1983.

Well, now THAT is accurate.  Without any explanation either. 

[COFFINCAR!!]

[Metal_King]

I wonder what I was dong on July 25th, 1983? 

I would have been 12.  It's a summer day.  Probably hanging with my dad getting the boat ready for our 2-week summer vacation trip up to Lake Nacimiento

[Carl Wood]

I wonder what I was dong on July 25th, 1983?  

You were probably listening to the very last notes of NWOBHM.

On a serious note, I too would have said (as a guess, really) that the genre started to decline in 1983.  That's around the time I myself started listening to metal (it was actually around late '84 or 85) and to me, Saxon and the like were bands of the past.  Bands like Iron Maiden (who had transended the NWOBHM genre as mentioned already) Motley Crue and Twisted Sister seemed to be the current trend of metal at the time.

[Auciello]

July 25th, 1983.

Is that when Pyromania dropped?

[Venom]

Is that when Pyromania dropped?

No Kill 'Em All by Metallica!

[Auciello]

Picked up two records today that harken back to 1984...

Grim Reaper - See You In Hell
Skull Fist - Head of the Pack

Now the Grim Reaper record caused quite a sensation when it dropped in the summer of '84, and I remember quite clearly how hard it was being pushed as the next big thing.  Being 15-years-old and totally into the skyrocketing metal scene, I picked this up, and... was disappointed.  You know, even in '84, it sounds a little like something on the way out.  So, I think the reference to the NWOBHM being done in '83 is apt.  I listened to this record a bit back in the day, put it aside, and picked it up today for old time's sake... a little time-travel, I suppose.  It inspired today what it did 27 years ago -- I think it's good, I just don't think it's great.

The Skull Fist record -- a new release from a local Toronto band -- really does a great job of capturing various aspects of the metal scene back in the '80s.  A little thrash, some high-pitched girly-man vocals, and a fun vibe.  Good on 'em for doing the retro thing this well.

[Venom]

here you go:
CD1   
Band   Song
Iron Maiden   Prowler
Motorhead   Ace of Spades
Venom   In League with Satan
Saxon   Heavy Metal Thunder
Angel Witch   Angel Witch
Def Leppard   Rock Brigade
Jaguar   Axe Crazy
Tokyo Blade   Midnight Rendezvous
Diamond Head   Am I Evil?
Raven   Don't Need Your Money
Satan   No Turning Back
Crucifixion   Green Eyes
Tank   Heavy Artillery
Tygers of Pan Tang   Killers
Demon   One Helluva Night
Ethel the Frog   Fight Back
Holocaust   Heavy Metal Mania
Marquis de Sade   Somewhere up in the Mountains
Pagan Alter   Judgement of the Dead

CD2   
Band   Song
Hell   Save Us From Those Who Would Save Us
Grim Reaper   See You In Hell
Hollow Ground   Fight With the Devil
Girlschool   Race with the Devil
Blitzkrieg   Blitzkrieg
Arc   War of the Ring
Black Axe   Red Lights
Quartz   Stand Up and Fight
Bleak House   Rainbow Warrior
Desolation Angels   Fury
Blind Fury   Do It Loud
Cloven Hoof   Nightstalker
Dark Star   Kaptain America
Samson   Riding with the Angels
Trepass   One of the Days
Elixir   Children of Tomorrow
Savage   Let It Loose
Praying Mantis   Children of the Earth
Saracen   Rock of Ages
Witchfynde   Give 'Em Hell
Tyrant   Hold Back the Lightning

[Venom]

CD3   
Band   Song
Diamond Head   It's Electric
Venom   Welcome To Hell
Def Leppard   Wasted
Iron Maiden   Running Free
Chateaux   Spirit of the Chateaux
Tygers of Pan Tang   Gangland
Jaguar   Back Street Woman
Satan   Breaking Free
Demon   Night of the Demon
Tokyo Blade   Night of the Blade
Sweet Savage   Killing Time
Crucifixion   The Fox
Tytan   Blind Men and Fools
Raven   Live at the Inferno
Sparta   Tonight
Witchfinder General   Burning A Sinner
Saxon   Denim and Leather
Tank   Shellshock
Scarab   Poltergeist
Virtue   We Stand to Fight

CD4   
Band   Song
A II Z   I'm the One Who Loves You
Girl   My Number
Bashful Alley   My My My
Shy   Tonight
Gaskin   Just Like A Movie Star
Bitches Sin   Always Ready (For Love)
Persian Risk   Ridin' High
Goldsmith   Life is Killing Me
Fist   Name, Rank & Serial Number
Jameson Raid   Seven Days of Splendour
Nightwing   Dressed to Kill
Omega   Drive Me Crazy
Paralex   White Lightning
Weapon   Set The Stage Alight
Sledgehammer   Sledgehammer
Venom   Angeldust
Angel Witch   Extermination Day
Holocaust   Death Or Glory
Vardis   If I Were King
Dragster   Ambitions
Grim Reaper   All Hell Let Loose
Def Leppard   Getcha Rocks Off
Iron Maiden   Wrathchild

[Denial Fiend]

At exactly what date does everyone consider to be the end of the NWOBHM movement?  How exact can it be pinned down?

I'm now questioning it myself. 

I don't think there is an exact ending date, but I kind of go with 1985 as it's end. Thrash was starting to boom then, and was the next big movement